The following are some notes I
made after my visit to Norwich Cathedral to hear Christian Biologist DenisAlexander. (8 March)
Denis Alexander is very much a part of the scientific establishment – in
fact part of tax payer funded public domain academia, a culture much despised by fundamentalists and the right wingers of the de-facto “IntelligentDesign” community. Unfortunately the latter have had the effect of blighting
the term “Intelligent Design”, for although it is clear that Christians like
Alexander would ultimately claim the universe to be the product of divine
intelligence they are not likely to want to associate themselves with de-facto
ID; perhaps because de-facto ID is too close to the cranko-fundamentalist
fringe and the politics of the extreme right wing. Moreover, de-facto IDists
have effectively hi-jacked the appellation “Intelligent Design” and rather
presumptuously see the term as exclusively applying to themselves. No surprise
then that Christians like Alexander are coy about identifying themselves with
the rubric “Intelligent Design” (See
also John Polkinghorne). It’s a classic case of community polarisation. Contrast
this with the statement by Alexander that he attends a church in Cambridge
where different views on the creation question are tolerated (as one would
expect of a moderate and intelligent evangelical ethos).
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Talk Notes.
The talk was titled Evolution
& Adam: Reality, Myth & Symbolism
These notes are not comprehensive but really represent salient issues that stood out for me.
Alexander started with an overview of human evolution. He said that the
first humans emerged around 200,000 years ago. Evidence supporting this data is
a human skull radiometrically dated as around 195,000. (My comment: This date appears to be fairly well
established in academic circles as I’ve heard it for several years now).
Migrations of humans to the rest of the world started out from Africa
around 60,000 years ago. 50,000 years ago humans reached Australia and Europe
43,000 years ago (However, a human tooth has recently been found in China which
could be 80,000 years old throwing doubt on these dates). African populations are
more genetically diverse than non-African – this is evidence that makes sense if
a relatively small human migration came out of Africa with a correspondingly
narrower gene pool. Further support for the “out-of-Africa” theory comes from
the presence of Neanderthal DNA in non-Africans caused by interbreeding.
After this introduction Alexander switched to theology which was his
main concern given the title of the talk. Moreover, in his book “Creation or Evolution: do we have to choose?”
Alexander says that he believes “the Bible
to be the inspired word of God from cover to cover”, so clearly Christian
theology will interest him deeply.
Alexander regards Genesis as a set of theological essays and quoted Philo
who said Genesis is symbolic rather than literal, Origen who said the Bible was
figurative, Augustine who believed the creation story wasn’t literal because he
thought creation was instantaneous, and Calvin who said you can’t learn
astronomy from Genesis. Alexander summed up by saying that there is no science
in the Bible. He said that the Genesis reference to man as the image of God
compares to the language used by the monarchs of the day who were claimed to be
the image of God on Earth, In effect the Bible democratises the idea of all
humans, both male and female, being made in the image of God on Earth. Hence,
all humans have special status and this was contrary to the infanticide
practices and slavery carried out in ancient times. There is ongoing infanticide (& slavery) in the
world today (My Comment: However
Alexander didn’t mention abortion which would have been a natural reference
here)
The word “Adam” translates as a generalised type for man. Woman is the “helper”
to man, a title also used of God himself. NT references to Adam are in the
context of the origin of Sin.
Alexander said he regarded Evolution and Theology to be two
complementary narratives.
At what point did people become responsible to God and when did sin
begin? At what point did a community of faith start? There are some speculative answers:
Model A: Gradual awareness of God as humanity has evolved. Then there
was a fall and rejection of God.
Model B: (Favoured by Alexander) God selected a community or a couple for revelation. They become the federal “parent” of the race, just as Ataturk become the “father” of Turkey although not literally. The fall followed this revelation. (Note: I have found that fundamentalists seldom have the imagination to appreciate that old Earth narratives introduce so many degrees of freedom that the ways of integrating the fall and death into those narratives are myriad)
Model B: (Favoured by Alexander) God selected a community or a couple for revelation. They become the federal “parent” of the race, just as Ataturk become the “father” of Turkey although not literally. The fall followed this revelation. (Note: I have found that fundamentalists seldom have the imagination to appreciate that old Earth narratives introduce so many degrees of freedom that the ways of integrating the fall and death into those narratives are myriad)
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See here
for a complimentary set of notes on Network Norwich and Norfolk. Either I
missed it or there seems to have been quite a lot of interpretation inserted
into the NN&N account, although not unreasonable interpretation: These
interpretations emphasize the Genesis story as “a radical theological and political text”
subversive of the politics and religion of the day, and also of modern times as
well.
Question Time
The question time started with
the chairman reading the riot act: People wanting to make lectures or engage in
arguments would not be tolerated. The first “questioners” tried to do just
this! I was rather puzzled as in my previous attendance to the talks of John
Polkinghorne and Simon Conway Morris no warning was issued and the question
time was good tempered. Had troublemakers been spotted coming in? The points of
the “troublemakers” were too incoherent to record here
Q: (from a “Creationist”): How can a “good” creation be reconciled with
death? Should we expect death to reign
in heaven?
A: “Good” did not mean perfect but “fit for purpose”.
“Good” doesn’t imply no death. Eating from the Tree of life lead to spiritual
alienation not death. You can’t have
life without death biologically speaking, cf. the huge thicknesses of chalk speak of
death. Is there death in heaven? No Jesus had a radically changed resurrection
body. He had gone beyond death.
Q: There are two discontinuities in this world: 1. Spontaneous complexity
and OOL. 2. The discontinuity of consciousness. What sense can we make of
these?
A: Another century might fix the
OOL problem. cf RNA world etc. Lots of
progress has been made. Consciousness
is an emergent phenomenon. You see it
emerging in children and in the animal world.
It’s a process and is complexity related.
Q: Is there life on other planets?
A: Alexander would love to see life discovered elsewhere. Life is
probably out there, but perhaps not intelligent life (Moot). Convergent evolution suggests that life can
be “discovered” many times. Very complex molecules have been discovered in
space like fullerenes.
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My general comment
The subliminal and sometimes not-so-subliminal theme underlying events
like the above is the “science vs theology” dichotomy. This dichotomy has, in
my view, been reinforced by fundamentalists (and also, might I add, by the
“Intelligent Design” community who generally have a poor view of the immanence of God and what it entails). In fundamentalism the “science” of academia tends
to be thought of as the “natural” profane human way of knowing, a way of
knowing to be contrasted against the “supernatural” godly ways of knowing found
in a blend of holy texts and gnostic revelations. Moreover, fundamentalism has a knack of distorting the epistemology of science in such a way that
it potentially emasculates its epistemic potency.
And yet it is clear that so-called “holy texts” cannot be interpreted
without a huge hinterland of background innate understanding, culture and
non-biblical texts. Holy texts, so-called, are organically joined to their
“natural contexts”. Perhaps as a way of attempting to bypass this inseparable
union of holy-text and profane context there is sometimes a last resort to gnosto-fideism,
a philosophy which claims to eschew reason and observation. This is the way of sublime
inner light, the way which attempts to disconnect epistemology from profanity
by affecting to rise above “natural” textual contamination through the pure revelations
of irreducibly intuitive experiences of the divine. This, I theorise, is the
religionist’s reaction to the epistemic pressure on Christianity that has built
up since the Copernican revolution. The outcome has been a drift either toward
text based Biblicalism or the existentialism of a gnosto-fideist rendition of
Christianity. It’s alright for bright
guys like Alexander who can see their way through the epistemic jungle, but the
average Christian often find themselves thrown into the arms of
fundamentalists who pronounce bald certainties.
In the science vs. theology debate there is a great irony which I have
noted before. Both subjects are empirical
to a greater or lesser extent. This is a conclusion which will surprise many,
but we only need observe Alexander’s methods to support it. Alexander is using his
(presumably God given) gifts and talents to try to make sense of his observations on the human predicament, on
society, on science, on holy texts and so on. Yes he’s doing a good job of it given
its difficulty, but generalised
empirical protocols actually form the basis of his theoretical synthesis; Viz:
observations on life, observations on history, scientific observations, observations
on scripture etc. These observations are the dots which are then joined into a
unity by the overall textual synthesis Alexander has constructed. In short sense is made of the human
predicament through observation and synthesis of those observations by
theoretical reflection. Ergo, theology is empirical, although it has to be
added not in the highly controlled, standardised, formal and mechanically testable
sense of
spring extending and test-tube precipitating science. But then it is arguable that the science of
string theory has a more post-facto sense making role than it does as a
testable theory.
Postscript:
The contrast couldn't be greater. When this wonderful vaulted ceiling was built the Ptolemaic cosmos, where man's abode was at the centre of special creation, still held sway. Man was confident about his position in the cosmos. Like the vault of the cathedral the vault of the heavens was clearly made to house man. But today with Denis Alexander's help we, as Christians, were trying to come to terms with a very, very different universe! Just how successful these attempts will ultimately prove to be remains to be seen. Time will tell.
3 comments:
Very nice analysis there Tim. Thanks for sharing.
Hi James. Thanks! Follow the link to the NN&N article and have look at the comments section!
Oh, bloody heck - not him again. One half the Halloway/Holland Tweedledum/Tweedledee coalition of nonsense based in our area!
I'm glad I documented my long with his partner in crime, Halloway, in this comprehensive exchange, before Keith had a cull of my older posts (at my request I should add) -
http://philosophicalmuser.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/going-12-rounds-with-evolution-denier.html
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