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Saturday, November 11, 2023

Does this Interview Solve the Human Predicament? Part III

Spoiler Alert: "No"

The extravagance of the WTM claims is a concern in itself



(For Parts 1 & II see here and here)

Some people have called it a "cult" and I can hardly blame them: The World Transformation Movement, as I pointed out in the previous parts of this series, laud their movement with language borrowed from religion. Moreover, as I said in Part I "Griffith has received such enthusiastic accolades from his followers that it's almost as if he is some kind of religious guru ushering in another plan of salvation, decisively addressing the human predicament". Griffith claims to base his plan of salvation on science and would therefore deny he's talking religion. However, I can understand a certain wariness about this movement; one might expect a truly scientific community to be a little more cautious, tentative, restrained and self-critical (and so should Christianity in my opinion!). The whole thing has shades of scientology, but that could be unfair as Jeremy Griffiths, as a personality, gives me good vibes. Just how cultish or otherwise the WTM are would eventually become apparent in how they deal with dissent and criticism.

Anyway, continuing with my analysis of the interview that saves the world (sic)...


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CRAIG CONWAY: ……that we have brutally competitive, survival-of-the-fittest instincts, which we are always having to try to restrain or civilise or try to control as best we can; I mean that’s what I was taught in school

JEREMY GRIFFITH: Yes, that’s what we were taught, but let’s think about this—and what I’m going to say now is very important, so I hope everyone’s listening closely. Surely this idea that we have savage competitive and aggressive, must-reproduceour-genes instincts cannot be the real reason for our species’ competitive and aggressive behaviour because, after all, words used to describe our human behaviour such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, cynical, mean, sadistic, immoral, brilliant, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic and alienated, all recognise the involvement of OUR species’ fully conscious thinking mind. They demonstrate that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour; that we don’t suffer from a genetic-opportunism-driven ‘animal condition’, but a conscious-mindbased, psychologically troubled HUMAN CONDITION

MY COMMENT: As I said in Part II, I'm probably too old to have been taught in school that the “selfish gene's” need to reproduce is the origin of our savage, competitive and aggressive motives. In fact, the history of human emergence is irrelevant to the real hard-wired problem with human behaviour: Whatever the history of the human race is, whether it be the fundamentalist’s 6000 year old creation, or the North American IDist’s God of evolutionary patching, or bog-standard evolution or something else altogether, the challenges of human behaviour trace back to each person being a quasi-isolated perspective of first-person-consciousness. Viz: My personal private experience of consciousness is vivid and all but overwhelming, whereas the experiences of other people have to be inferred rather than directly felt. Therefore, when faced with a conflict of interest in our world of zero-sum games, a conflict which entails a choice of either choosing in favour of oneself or other selves, then unless I’m exceptionally selfless (which unfortunately isn’t true in my case) I’m likely to choose in favour of self. That's because I feel my feelings but not the feelings of others. OK, sometimes the moral imperative to put others first does win through, but unfortunately not always. I’m a sinner, so help me God!

In conclusion, then, the WTM’s claim that the problematic human condition traces back to a troubled psychological complex which seeks an excuse in the teaching that genetic opportunism drives humanity’s competitive behaviour is the wrong diagnosis: One may know nothing about genetic opportunism and yet one is still troubled by the choices one has to make in the face of the fundamental fault line between the consciousness of self and the consciousness of all those others. Whatever the history of the emergence of our strong sense of personal existence and individual identity, it is a fact that the consciousness of our individual identity is felt more vividly than the conscious identity of other humans; therein lies the rub. The challenge to human behavior is to weigh the inferred experiences of others as strongly as we weigh our direct experiences.  This challenge is far deeper than fixing a psychosis.

It is a trivial truism to say that there is a psychological dimension to our behavior; of course there is, by definition: Our behavior, especially in the social sphere where "love-thy-neighbour" choices are demanded, is largely a product of our neural make-up and the information that make-up stores. But yes, we are psychologically troubled because I know what is right and yet that strong sense of first-person-consciousness means that…. 

14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. (Romans 7:14-20)

That sums up my experience of the power of the self.

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JEREMY: What’s more, we humans have cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts, the voice or expression of which we call our conscience—which is the complete opposite of competitive, selfish and aggressive instincts. As Charles Darwin said, ‘The moral sense… affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’ (The Descent of Man, 1871, ch.4). Of course, to have acquired these cooperative, selfless and loving moral instincts our distant ape ancestors must have lived cooperatively, selflessly and lovingly, otherwise how else could we have acquired them? Our ape ancestors can’t have been brutal, clubwielding, competitive and aggressive savages as we have been taught, rather they must have lived in a Garden of Eden-like state of cooperative, selfless and loving innocent gentleness—which, as I’d like to explain to you later in this interview Craig, is a state that the bonobo species of ape is currently living in, and which anthropological findings now evidence we did once live in. For instance, anthropologists like C. Owen Lovejoy are  THE Interview That Solves The Human Condition And Saves The World! reporting that ‘our species-defining cooperative mutualism can now be seen to extend well beyond the deepest Pliocene [which is well beyond 5.3 million years ago]’ (‘Re-examining Human Origins in Light of Ardipithecus ramidus’, Science, 2009, Vol.326, No.5949)

So saying our competitive and aggressive behaviour comes from savage competitive and aggressive instincts in us is simply not true—as I’d like to come back to shortly, it’s just a convenient excuse we have used while we waited for the psychosis-acknowledging and-solving, real explanation of our present competitive and aggressive human condition!

MY COMMENT: Yes, I would completely agree we have moral instincts, but these are often at war with our temptation to put our very vivid first-person experience before the extrapolated/inferred experience of others. Our potential for selfish, aggressive and assertive behaviour and our contrasting potential for selfless loving and cooperative behaviour live side by side in us all. Humanity usually knows what is right and often does what is right, but certainly not always, in fact not often enough. We easily slip into selfish competitive ways, and regardless of how humanity emerged in ancient history the problem traces back to the balance of choice between serving our vivid first-person experiences and the extrapolated, inferred experiences of others.

The picture Jeremy is painting of both humanity and the primate animal kingdom looks to be wrong. Take for example the bonobos: If the references in Wiki are right then in spite of fact that bonobos are often cooperative and supportive, males still fight competitively for females.  Chimpanzee aggressiveness and competitiveness goes further still; they not only kill other animals for meat but also have been known to kill one another. So again, we find aggressive competitiveness and supporting loving instincts living side by side in both human and primate communities. This is no surprise: Humans and primates can be very supportive and loving toward fellow community members, but when it’s a choice between self and all those others in a world where zero-sum games abound that vivid first-person identity tempts a self-first choice.

So, who is saying that our competitive and aggressive behaviour comes from savage competitive and aggressive instincts inherited from the past? That sounds like a caricatured straw-man to me. Human behaviour, like primate behaviour is a mix of support and competition and both humans and primates are morally hard put to it when a zero-sum game forces a choice between self and others. Where Jeremy gets this primate Eden from I don’t know: Not from the Animal kingdom, or from Human behaviour: So, I assume he has extracted this picture from the Bible and is using it as a metaphor; but at this stage it is not clear how he is using it; will we have to get further into the interview, to clarify this point.  

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CRAIG:  Wow, so that’s a pretty big statement Jeremy, I mean it’s a pretty important point you’re making here. You’re saying that our competitive and aggressive behaviour is not due to must-reproduce-our-genes instincts like other animals, but is due to a consciousmind-based, psychologically troubled condition, yes?

JEREMY: Yes, our egocentric and arrogant and mean and vindictive and even sadistic behaviour has nothing to do with wanting to reproduce our genes. That was absurd. And it is actually really good news that our behaviour is due to a conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled condition because psychoses can be healed with understanding. If our competitive and aggressive behaviour was due to us having savage instincts then we would be stuck with that born-with, hard-wired, innate behaviour. It would mean we could only ever hope to restrain and control those supposedly brutal instincts. But since our species’ divisive behaviour is due to a psychosis, that divisive behaviour can be cured with healing understanding. So that is very good news. In fact, incredibly exciting news, because with understanding we can finally end our psychologically troubled human condition. It’s the understanding of ourselves that we needed to heal the pain in our brains and become sound and sane again

As I said, the ‘savage instincts’ explanation was just a convenient excuse while we searched for the psychosis-addressing-and-solving real explanation of our divisive behaviour, which is the explanation I would now like to present

MY COMMENT:  Jeremy continues to assert his case that the human predicament is being covered up by misleading theories about the selfish gene and that all we need is to do is to go into psychological rehab...... but the epistemic gap between our first-person experiences and the third person whose experiences can only be reached by empathetic inference & extrapolation is hard-wired in the physics of biology.  Given the fundamental nature of this gap it would be wrong to suggest that this is down to a “psychosis” that is remedied by rehabilitation. Yes, I agree, understanding ourselves is certainly the first step but that should entail understanding the fundamental fault line in human nature that drives our potential for selfish and competitive behaviour.

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CRAIG: Okay, so what you’re saying here, Jeremy, is that we don’t need the convenient excuse anymore that we have some kind of savage animal instincts because we have the real explanation of our conscious-mind-based psychologically troubled human condition

MY COMMENT: That so-called convenient excuse is a straw-man. The real problem is far more fundamental than the WTM pundits make out. In other words, the WTM don’t have the full explanation for the human potentiality for competitiveness and selfishness.

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JEREMY: Yes, and this key, all-important, psychosis-addressing-and-solving explanation is actually very obvious. If we think about it, if an animal was to become fully conscious, like we humans became, then that animal’s new self-managing, understanding-based conscious mind would surely have to challenge its pre-existing instinctive orientations to the world, wouldn’t it? A battle would have to break out between the emerging conscious mind that operates from a basis of understanding cause and effect and the non-understanding instincts that have always controlled and dictated how that animal behaves.

 CRAIG: Yes, that makes sense Jeremy, so what happened though when this animal became conscious and its whole life turned into a psychologically distressed mess?

MY COMMENT The epistemic distance between my personal experiences and the experiences of others is a fundamental and irreducible feature of nature that isn't due to a psychologically distressed mess; it is, in fact, the way physics determines how the biological human works. This epistemic separation, which in the zero-sum games of life tempts selfish and competitive behavior, behavior often condemned by our consciences, is the real challenge of the human condition. 

Consciousness lies on a continuum that is a function of (but not identical to) the level of cognition possessed by an organism. In fact a single human being becomes more conscious of the world around as (s)he learns and grows; that is, consciousness increases with perception and learning. In my view dogs, cats, and primates are also conscious, but their neural set-up, their perceptions and learning mean they are less conscious than humans about many things. I'll be tackling Jeremy's references to an animal becoming fully conscious in my next part, Part IV.

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 So, if our conscious quasi-isolated first-person perspective is generated by the way biology uses the laws of physics then this probably means that cats, dogs, dolphins and primates have a first-person experience; that is, they are conscious beings, albeit with a level of cognition that in many areas (but certainly not all) is far exceeded by human beings.  That the extent of consciousness is a function of (but not identical to) cognitive level means that consciousness is on a sliding scale. So, when Jeremy talks about an animal becoming fully conscious that’s far too binary; there is clearly a consciousness spectrum that depends on the extent of one’s cognitive ability & perceptions. A high level of ability means one is more conscious of the world than at a lower level. For human beings much of that excess of conscious cognition resides in the world of community; human beings are gifted with strong social processing powers and have an awareness of those around them. Ironically, then, it is that very social consciousness which opens the door to sin, the word with the "I" in middle: My social cognition reveals to me how other people might be feeling and experiencing, even though I don’t experience those feelings directly myself. Emerging consciousness opens the door to potentially selfish behavior. This seems to be the very opposite of what Jeremy is maintaining!

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In his very moving series "The Power of Art" historian Sir Simon Schama comments on the life and work of the Italian artist Caravaggio, a man who lived on the edge of the precipice of his strong passions and emotions. He led a life of profligacy and lost control more than once. According to Schama, however, Caravaggio was aware of his flaws, at least toward the end of his life. In Caravaggio's late-life painting of David holding the severed head of Goliath Schama tells us that it displays the self-knowledge of a self-aware sinner; the head of Goliath was a self-portrait. The figure of David, instead of wallowing in the pride of victory looks at the head with a pensive compassion and sadness. 


Schama picks up the story:

The power of his [Caravaggio's] art is the power of truth, not least the truth about ourselves. For if we are ever to have a chance of redemption it must begin with an act of recognition that in all of us the Goliath competes with the David. 

Until we grasp the truths at the root of our schismatic motives, truths about the epistemic distance between ourselves and our fellow human, salvation will continue to allude us. 

Thursday, November 02, 2023

On Panda's Thumb: Do we have free will? Part II

Spoiler Alert: Pseudo Question!

The free will-determinism dichotomy is an illusion


This is the second part of a two-part series where I discuss a post by Matt Young on the evolution website "Panda's Thumb" entitled Do we have free will? No.  See here for Part I.  In his post Matt mentions that in 2001 he wrote a book with the title of No Sense of Obligation: Science and Religion in an Impersonal Universe. This is what he says of his book:


 In that book, I argued that humans were biological creatures and therefore governed by the laws of physics. Those laws are deterministic (we will get back to that in a minute), so everything we do, think, or decide is determined by those laws. We may think we have free will; we certainly have to act as if we have free will; but in fact we have no such thing.

MY COMMENT: I wouldn't take issue with Matt's statement that humans are biological creatures and therefore governed by the laws of physics.  After all, as a Christian I support the view that our highly contingent physical regime has been reified from the platonic realm in an act of Divine creation and therefore displays miraculous wonders every second of the day; it can have no property of Aseity and therefore its mere daily existence is a sign and wonder. Where Matt falls over in the above quote is that he's barged straight into subject as if we have a clear idea of what freewill and determinism are about; but we don't: See my series where I took to task a Christain who was also sure that the dichotomy was absolutely uncontestably clear and meaningful; that it certainly is not! My understanding is that even a computer running a deterministic program can be said to have "free will" in that it makes choices/decisions according to its physical make up; but it loses that freewill if outside influences coercively steer it away from its natural decision tree. I don't necessarily dispute that the laws of physics govern human behavior, although we must caution that it is clear from the state of physics that in spite a substantial understanding of the "algorithms" which constrain the patterns of the cosmos we cannot claim to have a comprehensive understanding of those laws. But as I show in my series I've linked to, the conclusion that we either have "free will" or "no free will" is an unintelligible dichotomy. 


MATT YOUNGNow before you get your knickers in a twist, none of the foregoing implies, for example, that we should not punish criminals. The pain they may inflict is real, and we may have to separate them from society until (or unless) they reform. I suggest, however, that their lack of free will suggests that we should be rehabilitating rather than punishing criminals. But that discussion is a little off-task here.

MY COMMENT: Interesting to note that Matt in his comment about the pain criminals inflict is very probably implicitly making an empathetic extrapolation whereby he perceives the first-person perspective of other human beings; that is, he is implicitly recognizing the existence of private consciousness. 

Yes, I think I agree with Matt's rehab line but the awful public punishment spectacles of times past were a primitive attempt to interfere with human psychology via a kind of social aversion therapy; that is, fear of the consequences of transgressing the societal status quo help keep law and order. It's a crude kind of rehab on the social level. It may well be that the sometimes-irresistible instinct to punish & wreak vengeance (something we all feel at times) is a proximate motivation which finds its utility in more primitive contexts.   In fact, in times of war it swings back into action, with a vengeance.


MATT YOUNG: When I wrote NSO, I assumed that quantum mechanics was itself purely deterministic and that someday we would discover an underlying, deterministic theory. It simply seemed unreasonable that, for example, an atomic nucleus would decide all on its own to emit an alpha particle, rather than being caused to do so by some external agency. It still seems unreasonable to me, but it may not be right

.MY COMMENT: Interesting to note that Matt was inclined to rebel against the idea that QM presented randomness. I suspect two motives for this: 

a) Prior to the coming of the new mechanical sciences there was much more scope for attributing inexplicable events to the fiat of spirits and gods.  In contrast under the new paradigm stuff happened because it conformed to known (or perhaps as yet unknown) mathematical patterns. But the notion that events, some events at least, are part of larger random patterns seems to leave the door ajar for the introduction of superstitions about spirits and gods manipulating the world via fiat. After all, the apparently acausal nature of randomness is counter intuitive and spirits and gods may be resorted to as a way of restoring conventional ideas about cause and effect; human beings find it hard to except patterns at face value. 

b) Determinism, if it can be expressed in terms of succinct mathematical algorithms which can be humanly grasped, gives us the feeling that it wraps things up in a neat package and looks to be a big step toward a closed ended system that crowds out divine fiat - or so it seems.

So, it is my guess that Matt is sublimating here an ulterior need for an intellectual hegemony which lives in the hope of tying up all those loose ends with a comprehensive system of intellectually tractable deterministic laws or algorithms which describe all that happens in the universe; This is the search for explanatory completeness.  It is futile quest destined to end with a hard core of unexplained brute contingency - and I'm talking about "explanation" here in a sense that is more satisfying than mere mathematically tractable descriptions. 

But, and here is the big "but", randomness is just another pattern albeit with the mathematical property that it requires either very large algorithms to specify it or very long algorithmic generation times. In the final analysis randomness presents us with the same mysteries that underlie those humanly tractable deterministic patterns: Viz: From whence come these ultimately contingent patterns of behavior? What sustains their reification moment by moment and place by place? Their mystery isn't to be found just in their instantiation in mathematical generators at the beginning of time but also in that they continue to work everywhere and everywhen when in fact there is no logical necessity (i.e. no Aseity) that they should continue to do so. 

 

MATT YOUNG:  Does quantum mechanics then come to our rescue and somehow grant free will? No. First, so many molecules are involved in, say, neurotransmission that their action may be considered completely classical and therefore completely deterministic. Even so, the occasional quantum fluctuation would not so much grant free will as it would make our decisions somewhat random, a condition that I think proponents of free will would not particularly care for

.MY COMMENT: It is possible that the human mind, like many other systems in the cosmic physical regime, is a non-linear feedback system, making it chaotic and therefore influenced by the butterfly effect of random quantum events. This actually may be a useful feature as the mind seeks creative solutions to problems: The randomness is exploited to provide useful novelty, but this doesn't necessarily mean human decisions are random; our decisions are likely constrained by overall teleological considerations that regulate this novelty, selecting or rejecting those randomly generated contingencies according to the goals and aims of the human complex adaptive system. 

However, it's true that I can't be dogmatic about the foregoing paragraph, but it does mean that Matt's conclusions above are in no way obliging. 


MATT YOUNG:  Quantum randomness may have been critically important to the evolution of the early universe. If we ran the “experiment” again, we might, for all I know, end up with a very different universe, one that does not even include us. That said, quantum randomness has very little effect on our daily lives, unless you count, for example, cancers induced by radioactive decay or cosmic radiation. Thus, as Sapolsky would argue, everything we think, say, and do is wholly and unequivocally determined by our detailed histories (except, as I have noted, for the occasional quantum fluctuation)

MY COMMENT: Matt's first two sentences here may well be true, but I feel he is likely to be wrong that quantum randomness (if it exists) has very little effect on our lives given that non-linear feedback systems are ubiquitous in our world. But this question, in my opinion, has very little impact on the free will-determinism question: The latter question as I have shown is really bound up with our definitions.


MATT YOUNG : I conclude, then, that we have no free will in any sense. I do not understand why some people consider that threatening; it simply is the way it is. We feel as if we have free will, we act as if we have free will, and we are treated as if we have free will. Free will is thus a useful fiction, but in reality it is only a fiction.

MY COMMENT: Determinism, as I've implied, is a perspective effect that is a function of the level of epistemic tractability of the patterns in nature. Determinism is an epistemic spectrum which runs from those simple (that is, short) algorithms of elementary physics which we find relatively easy to handle, to the much more complex patterns of apparent randomness, patterns which do not yield to simple algorithmic expressions. Ergo, determinism is a subjective category which depends on one's information, i.e. it depends on one's perspective. Matt's triumphant conclusion that "we have no free will in any sense" is as incoherent as those who hang onto to freewill categories. 

The two sides in this polarized debate between so-called "freewill" and "determinism" advocates find one another's stance threatening because they undermine each other's dearly held philosophy.  But for me their respective positions are void of intelligibility.