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Sunday, October 29, 2023

On Panda's Thumb: Do we have free will? Part I

Spoiler Alert: Pseudo Question! 

The freewill-determinism dichotomy is an illusion.


In a post on the Panda's Thumb website entitled Do we have free will? No, poster Matt Young considers the time-honored question of free will vs predestination/determinism. As a rough rule theists tend to fall into the free will camp and those of a more secular leaning gravitate towards predestination/determinism or "no free will".  So, it is less than a surprise that Matt Young opts for the latter.  As I've proposed in my series on Free Will and Determinism, I believe both sides of this debate have polarized around a pseudo question. See here: 

Quantum Non-Linearity: The Incoherent Notions of Free Will and Determinism. Part III (quantumnonlinearity.blogspot.com)

I'll deal with the detail of Matt's post in Part II,  but I want to make some preliminary comments about the polarization we see in North America between theists and secularists over questions which don't actually justify polarisation. The freewill vs determinism question is just one of these needless contentions. 

The North American Intelligent Design (NAID) community are in strong contention with American science establishment. The latter is largely populated with thinkers who in the main are likely to style themselves as secularists; that is, they believe the cosmos as it is understood through science is all we can really know. They see the NAID community as trying to import religious notions into science by the backdoor under the guise of "the science of intelligent design".  Just how these respective communities answer certain questions can be used as faith tests or shibboleths betraying which of these two polarized groups one identifies with. Below I list three examples of shibboleth questions and their shortcomings as community identifiers: 


1. Do you believe in evolution? My understanding of evolution, as I've clarified in this blog many times, is that whether or not evolution as conventionally understood has taken place, either way a huge burden of up-front information is required to drive the emergence of life. The reason for this is the following relationship which holds for any process that can be algorithmically simulated (See here & here for more):

Information generated <= upfront information + Log (computation steps)

Unless we are dealing with a processor capable of expanding parallelism the second term on the right-hand side means that unless we supply sufficient upfront information an immense amount of time is entailed by the Log term in the above relation - times which make the age & size of our observable universe look a very small and cozy affair indeed. That conventional evolution doesn't address this origins question over the frontloaded information means that as far as evolution is concerned the science establishment vs. the NAID community  polarisation is actually a non-contention: Viz: The science establishment have a mathematically inevitable origins question, evolution or no-evolution, and therefore this leaves them open to an appeal to the Aseity of Deity. On the other hand, the NAID community still have a case even if evolution has occurred and therefore, they are not necessarily obliged to set themselves against the academic community on the basis of an anti-evolution platform. 


2. Do you believe in junk DNA? NAIDs are very likely to take an anti-junk DNA position as they are so sure that an intelligent creator designer would never leave extraneous non-functional code in the DNA. On the other hand, secularists, who are inclined to believe in a meaningless & purposeless cosmos substantially ruled by the random walk of evolution have less problem with the idea that useless junk DNA has accumulated in the genome over millions of years. And yet why should a super-intelligent creator of inscrutable purposes be constrained not leave code of, say, historical interest in his DNA scripts as might a human software engineer? And can the secular establishment be so sure that enigmatic tracts of DNA honed by evolution don't have a deeper meaning?  As far as I can see the NAIDs and the academic establishment have divided on an issue that has no necessary connection with their respective world views.  


3. Do you believe entropy bars evolution? Many in the NAID community wrongly believe that the second law of thermodynamics is an evolution stopper grounded in fundamental physics. But at least one young earther appears to realize that this is an unsound argument

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In contending over the above issues, the science establishment and the NAIDs are fighting on another on the wrong battle fields They should be arguing over what to my mind are much more pertinent issues such as the question of Aseity; given that science is a fundamentally descriptive discipline where the search for logical necessity is always destined to end at a stultifying barrier of hard-core contingency, it will never supply Aseity.  In his post Matt Young tells us about a book he wrote in 2001 on science and religion called No Sense of Obligation: Science and Religion in an impersonal Universe.  I'll hand it to him: He's on the right track about the challenge of an apparently impersonal Universe: It's true that unless we are going to go for the cosified universe of Christain young earthers and flat earthers the ostensive appearance of the universe can present an enigma to theists such as myself: Is the universe the sort of place an all-powerful loving deity would actually create? This question is linked to the problem of suffering and evil

Below I add a fourth battlefield that the science secularists & the NAIDs tend to fight over, and this is what I regard as a pseudo questions: Viz: the question of freewill and determinism.  As I've said I'll deal with Matt Young's post in detail in Part II, but below I make some general comments. 

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4. Do you believe in free will or determinism? If the physical regime was fully deterministic and we had full knowledge of that determinism this would be the nearest science could come to providing a complete understanding; that is, providing a comprehensive description for all that passes in the cosmos.  I can see why those who lean toward secularism favor this option; it is the best science can offer in the way of explanatory completeness, a closed ended rational system.  But as we well know, this completeness is a pseudo completeness: Ultimately the deterministic algorithms which simulate the physical regime have an explanatory edge, that is, a hard-core barrier of irreducible, incompressible information. The question of the origin of this information is either regarded as a mystery, an absurdity or a meaningless question. 

But in any case, what's so special about deterministic algorithms? In the final analysis they merely describe in compressed form the highly organized patterns of determinism. Moreover, it can be questioned as to why "deterministic patterns" are so fundamentally different from the random patterns of statistics which are simply patterns that demand either very large algorithms and/or long execution times to be described. Furthermore, once those random patterns get set into the resin block of history, they to take on, from a human perspective, the property of being potentially completely knowable and in that sense determined......likewise, any human action which claims to be freewill: Once the so-called freewill is actioned it cannot be changed and becomes as fixed into history and determined as any event fixed by deterministic algorithms. 

Determinism is a spectrum concept that is a function of the epistemic ability of humans to know; in short, it's a subjective judgement. Randomness looks indeterministic not because it has some intrinsic property of indeterminism but because prior to it being set into the resin block of history (and apart from its statistical aspects) its details are humanly unknowable, beyond human epistemic handling. Randomness's indeterminism is a human perspective effect. Ergo, determinism is also a human perspective effect. 

Tuesday, October 17, 2023

Does this Interview Solve the Human Predicament? Part II

Spoiler Alert: "No"



Biologist Jeremy Griffith comes over as a nice reasonable guy, so all the more reason why I'm wondering how he got caught up in this extravaganza of hyper-hype and sales promotion.
I think Jeremy has got too many people around him telling him how great he is!


Below I quote bits of "THE most important interview of all time" (!) and as usual interleave my comments.  See here for Part I of  this series. 

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CRAIG CONWAY: So Jeremy, thank you for talking with us. Tell us, how does your work bring about ‘the psychological rehabilitation of the human race’ and end all the suffering and strife, and, as Professor Prosen said, ‘save the world’

JEREMY GRIFFITH: Thank you very much for having me on your program Craig. Finding understanding of our psychologically troubled human condition has actually been what the efforts of every human who has ever lived has been dedicated to achieving and has contributed to finding. As Professor Prosen said, finding understanding of the human condition has been ‘the holy grail’ of the whole human journey of conscious thought and enquiry. We humans have absolutely lived in hope, faith and trust that one day, somewhere, some place, all the efforts of everyone—but of scientists in particular—would finally produce the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of us humans. I know it must seem outrageous to claim that this goal of goals has finally been achieved, but it has. In fact, the human condition is such a difficult subject for us humans to confront and deal with that I couldn’t be talking about it so openly and freely if it hadn’t been solved.

MY COMMENT: I think you will find that these people see themselves as having no pretentions of invoking an other-worldly solution to the human predicament: That is, they are likely to claim that their diagnosis of the human condition and their proposed (or should that be "asserted" rather than "proposed"?) solution to it are purely secular and scientific.  And yet they express themselves with the superlative language of religious aspiration, epiphany and certainty. In the above quote we hear that humanity has lived in hope, faith and trust that out there somewhere, somehow there is a solution that remedies their difficult lot, a final answer which classifies as a kind of salvation. In fact, Jeremy Griffith, clearly borrowing his language from the Western Christian tradition, describes his revelation as “the completely redeeming, up lifting and healing understanding of us humans”. It is the “holy grail” which according to Craig “...ends all the suffering and strife and as Professor Prosen said 'saves the world'”. Gasp! This isn’t a tentative statement fielded as a proposal for comment as one might expect from scientists, but this “goal of goalshas finally been achieved according to Griffith. He has been enlightened by the ultimate epiphany!

Griffiths and his followers are in fact admitting something that many theists have said for a long while: Namely, that human beings aren’t like the beasts of the fields who have little more than an idle curiosity about some of the superficial aspects their world; as far as we know animals, unlike humans, do not question the fundamentals of their lot. For them life is an unquestionably given state of affairs, like it or lump it. In contrast, many humans have that deeply probing curiosity about the numinous and resist an unquestioning acceptance of the status quo. They don’t readily accept the cosmic state of affairs as a brute given; for them a cosmos which is just there and where further questions are regarded as futile because it is all meaningless and purposeless is an absurdity.  (But see here)

Though it may be deeply buried there is among humans an existential yearning for meaning and purpose that is not easy to get over.  Humans not only have an unquenchable curiosity about deeper matters but also proactively seek betterment of the secular status quo, and more; they have a soteriological hope in their hearts. The surprise is that Jeremy and his followers, who I suspect purport only to seek solutions in the secular realm, have effectively admitted the existence of these deep existential yearnings and motivations: Viz: a soteriological faith & hope which perhaps hints at that residual hankering after the Divine.

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CRAIG: Okay then Jeremy, solve the human condition for us, we’re all ears!

MY COMMENT: We’re all ears? You can say that again!

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JEREMY: Firstly, I’m a biologist, and that’s important because I think everyone will agree that what we need is a non-abstract, non-mystical, completely rational and thus understandable, scientific, biological explanation of us humans. So how are we to explain and understand the human condition, understand why we humans are the way we are, so brutally competitive, selfish and aggressive that human life has become all but unbearable. In fact, how are we to make so much sense of our divisive behaviour that the underlying cause of it is so completely explained and understood that, as Professor Prosen said, the whole of the human race is psychologically rehabilitated and everyone’s life is transformed?

CRAIG: Yes, that’s what we want; the human condition finally explained, fixed up and healed forever!

MY COMMENT: As I’ve already said Jeremy, in spite of his quasi-religious expressionology, is not claiming to offer any more than a scientifically accessible explanation of the human predicament. This is clear in his first statement above where he says that being a biologist he seeks a non-mystical, scientific biological explanation of the human predicament.  Fair enough, but this to my mind clashes with the sensational fanfare we are getting from his World Transformation Movement.  Where’s the studied scientific detachment? Where’s the “Let’s try this hypothesis and see where it takes us”? Can they be so confident when their solution hasn't been tried & tested yet?

Humanity has a very poor track record when it comes to implementing what they believe to be comprehensive solutions to the human predicament. Let’s recall those many failed ideologies & their intoxicated ideologues who have promoted them: From the French revolutionaries to Marx’s followers, from Hitler to Donald Trump**, from the Inquisition to Islamic state, we've heard from their respective ideologues who have made loud and emphatic claims about proffering comprehensive solutions to humanity’s problems but look where their deluded followers have taken the human race. Such unquenchable and convinced confidence starts the alarm bells ringing. The studied detachment and caution of scientific and rational attitudes are being thrown to the winds here.

Jeremy continues to lay on the religious archetypes with a trowel as he goes on to describe in strong terms what I, as a Christian, would call sin (That word with the “I” in the middle) and its effects: He tells us that We are so brutally competitive, selfish and aggressive that human life has become all but unbearable. Yes, I think I can just about agree with that!

Jeremy’s last sentence in my quote above alludes to his solution to humanity's rampantly divisive behaviour. Using the language of psychology, he hints that the solution is also scientific by saying that the whole human race needs psychologically rehabilitating.  He continues with his melodramatic tone by assuring us that this rehabilitation will mean everyone’s life is transformed!  Gasp! But will a bit of psychological tinkering & rehab be the holy grail solution which heals us and fixes us up forever? In fact are there enough psychoanalysts in the world with the level of skill to fix us up? I think we need more details here!

Let’s face it, Jeremy's demeanor is that of a modern-day Scientific Apostle of Salvation and this appeals to those recrudescent religious archetypes we find in our hearts. In fact, he seems to have succeeded in planting the faith in quite a few people; enough to form the World Transformation Movement, a strongly self-publishing movement which leaves me with the impression that it is a sales organization rather than a scientific think-tank. Well, if the WTM is chiefly about advertisement then the self-praising sales talk is understandable; but that doesn’t amount to a recommendation. *

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JEREMY:  Exactly Craig. So, to start at the beginning, I know everyone listening is living with the belief—well it’s what we were all taught at school and are told in every documentary—that humans’ competitive, selfish and aggressive behavior is due to us having savage, must-reproduce-our-genes instincts like other animals have. Certainly, while left-wing thinkers do claim we have some selfless, cooperative instincts, they also say we have this selfish, competitive ‘animal’ side, which Karl Marx limited to such basic needs as sex, food, shelter and clothing. I mean, our conversations are saturated with this belief, with comments like: ‘We are programmed by our genes to try to dominate others and be a winner in the battle of life’; and ‘Our preoccupation with sexual conquest is due to our primal instinct to sow our seeds’; and ‘Men behave abominably because their bodies are flooded with must reproduce-their-genes-promoting testosterone’; and ‘We want a big house because we are innately territorial’; and ‘Fighting and war is just our deeply-rooted combative animal nature expressing itself’.

CRAIG: Yes, that’s exactly what I’ve understood is the reason for our competitive and aggressive nature—that we have brutally competitive, survival-of-the-fittest instincts, which we are always having to try to restrain or civilise or try to control as best we can; I mean that’s what I was taught in school

MY COMMENT: Speak for yourselves chaps! My schooling was long enough ago for me to not be taught any significant evolutionary theory at school. And when I got into higher education (A levels and beyond) I specialized in maths, physics, chemistry and computing. So, I didn’t start grappling with evolutionary texts until quite late in life. For example, I read the book Sociobiology: The Whisperings Within (David Barash) and The Blind Watchmaker (Richard Dawkins) when I was in my thirties, In these books I heard about the selfish gene and how even altruism was a manifestation of this selfishness. On top of that I had also pondered those survival of the fittest notions as promoted by Social Darwinists such as we find among the fascists and Nazis. I assume that it is this sort of thing which Jeremy is referring to in his first sentence. But by the time I was seriously considering these topics not only was I already a Christian but predating that, I believed I had located the core problem with human nature. Let me explain…

I can remember a time at first-school when I would walk around the playground by myself convinced that those other young human beings were robots without feelings – it took time for it to sink in that that wasn’t true. It took me time to sample human behaviour sufficiently for me to realize that their  behaviour was entirely consistent with they too being conscious beings and that they were not just some kind of façade like an unfeeling computer simulation: This was the awful discovery that they had pains, pleasures and fears like myself. Obviously, this didn’t mean that I then started experiencing other people’s conscious feelings; their first-person perspective remained hidden: Rather via an extrapolation of my own feelings I inferred (but did not feel) other people’s first-person perspective. It’s what I called in later life an empathic extrapolation or empathic construction.

Therein lay the rub: That I had at last acquired the ability to empathize certainly didn’t mean I would necessarily act on it in a morally acceptable way: I didn't suddenly become free of the temptation of putting myself at the centre of my universe; after all I didn’t feel others feelings, I only inferred them and consequently it was too easy to ignore those other first-person perspectives all around me and get on with my own life in a very self-centred and selfish way; frankly, that is how my inner nature is skewed even today. I had the choice of affecting other people’s pains and pleasures for either good or bad, but there was no automatic switch which suddenly turned me from a naturally self-centered person to an unselfish one; choice, especially the potential for bad self-centered choices, loomed large: If I kept my self well insulated from the social world around me, I wouldn’t even hear about those feeling other beings. In short, I had discovered “sin”; the word with “I” in the middle. So, when Christianity came along and told me I was a sinner I said, “Of course I’m a sinner!”. This personal discovery needed no evolutionary theory about that competitive struggle in the survival of the fittest or teaching about the selfish gene. My first-person perspective meant that I was always tempted to choose self-first and neglect others; As Saint Paul said in Romans 7:14-20:

14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

That sums up my experience of the power of the self. 

The information in our genes is the recipe, which when baked in the right environment of the womb, generates what ultimately turns out to be a humanoid structure with that private first-person perspective of consciousness. (I have made some guesses as to what physical conditions might be required to give rise to first-person consciousness; see here). It is this first-person perspective which entails the potential for those bad self-centered choices we identify as sin. It is irrelevant just how the population of conscious beings has come about via the genetic code and some kind of evolution. Moreover, it is irrelevant whether or not those physical processes which entail sentient choosing beings are deterministic; choice is always entailed (See my posts on free-will and determinism). We cannot escape choice and choice opens the possibility of choosing self at the expense of other selves. The genes & evolution are just mathematical generators; they don’t rid or excuse the final human product of the responsibility of choice and the potential to sin - that is, to make selfish choices. 

What may be confusing Jeremy and his followers is that the objects of scientific study are conventionally described purely in the language of the third person; that is, as if there is no such thing as the first-person experiencer and observer of those objects described by science. This linguistic trick has confused many, so much so in fact that some people have even taken onboard the absurd idea that there is no such thing as consciousness; these people have read the third person language of science far too literally. The irony is that the touchstone of reality for the objects of science is that they deliver observation, conscious observation, enabling those hypothesized objects to be tested for reality. The reality of those highly regular laws is underwritten if they reify a rational ordered conscious experience. The reality of a cosmos which doesn’t deliver this world of organised experience is under question. Exactly how those laws create our first-person experience we are still discovering, but it seems that the potential for temptation and sin is built into the cosmic physical regime because that regime generates the first-person experience, regardless of whether or not we’ve been taught about competitive survival instincts being written into our genes. Summarizing then, my conclusion is that Jeremy and his followers, in spite of their confident and over-hyped sales talk, have got their diagnosis of the human predicament fundamentally wrong. 

Well, be all that as it may, what about the WTM's proposed treatment of the human condition? That will be my consideration in the next parts of this series: Does humanity, as the WTM suggest, simply need to have some psychological rehab and then its problems will all be fixed up forever? The straight answer to that, as we will see is “No!”. Moreover, compounding the problems of the human tendency toward the self, as I hope to show, are some very significant epistemic issues concerning the physical & social constraints on the way we interrogate and form opinions about the world we are in: This makes harmonizing our opinions far from straight forward This is why in my estimation we need the accountable open government of democratic forums. Psychological rehab isn’t going to make those challenges go away, because again, psychology isn’t able to change the status quo of the physical regime.  


Footnotes: 

* It can be fairly objected that the Christian sub-culture of which I am part is all too often given to the hype and bigotry of certainty. True. In my case however my faith is less than certain: I take epistemic responsibility for having pieced together my own sense-making explanatory structure around meaning and purpose - being a clay vessel myself (2 Cor 4:7-9) whose epistemic technique and morality are flawed I acknowledge the strong possibility of error and that my faith is subject to futility. It's an interesting paradox that Christianity, which is so clear on human imperfection, should consequently have a self-referencing conflict, an almost self-undermining effect. Christianity has clauses that lead faith to doubt itself and indulge in self-examination (2 Cor 13:5). But if there is a Biblical God why worry? He is the giver of faith no matter how small and therefore we should not think of ourselves more highly than we ought to think (Romans 12:3). But faith as small as a mustard seed means nothing is impossible.  (Mat 17:20)

** Hitler lived for the evil Nazi ideology, Donald Trump's ideology is ..... Donald Trump. 

Thursday, October 05, 2023

This is hyper-hype with knobs on. Part 1

The World Transformation Movement's "Bible" can't be accused of cautious understatement! Trouble is, "self-praise is no recommendation".


Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith has made what he believes to be an important proposal about the nature of the human predicament, although an assertion of fact rather than a proposal is more in keeping with the level of confidence one finds among the aficionados of the movement he has spawned, the so-called World Transformation Movement.  Griffith has received such enthusiastic accolades from his followers that it's almost as if he is some kind of religious guru ushering in another plan of salvation, decisively addressing the human predicament. Griffith's followers clearly believe that as far as the meaning of life, the universe and everything is concerned, they've found it! In fact, to be frank, The World Transformation Movement makes Donald Trump's MAGA movement look like a quite humble outfit in comparison! 

Given this hyper-hype, which a cynic like me instinctively distrusts, I thought I'd better take a closer look at The World Transformation Movement. To this end I listened to an interview of Griffith by one of his fans, Craig Conway. This interview has been published as a PDF and can be downloaded from the same link. The interview bills itself as follows:

THE Interview That Solves The Human Condition And Saves The World!

"The most important interview of all time!"

Gasp! Wow! But there's a lot more of that kind of sensational claim from whence it came. Underneath the title we read this:

The transcript of acclaimed British actor and broadcaster Craig Conway’s astonishing, world-changing and world-saving 2020 interview with Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith about his book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition—which presents the completely redeeming, uplifting and healing understanding of the core mystery and problem about human behaviour of our so-called ‘good and evil’-stricken human condition—thus ending all the conflict and suffering in human life at its source, and providing the now urgently needed  road map for the complete rehabilitation and transformation of our lives and world!

Craig doesn't mince his words when praising Jeremy in his introduction to the interview:

“The turmoil and trauma of the pandemic has only amplified the now dire need in the world for a deeper, lasting solution to all the chaos and suffering in human life. And this deeper enduring solution is actually what this biologist I’m about to interview is going to provide us with. He is going to do it by explaining and solving the underlying cause of all the suffering, which is our ‘good and evil’- stricken so-called human condition.......So I don’t care what you’re doing, you need to stop and listen to this interview. In fact, I don’t care what you do for the rest of your life, if you can you just need to listen to this!.” 

OK, you might expect an actor & broadcaster to lay it on with trowel but, surprisingly, so does academic Professor Harry Prosen, former president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association: 

 “I have no doubt Jeremy Griffith’s biological explanation of the human condition in his book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition is the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race. This is the book we have been waiting for, it is the book that saves the world.” 

In fact, according to Craig Conway Griffith's work has:

.... attracted the support of such eminent scientists as the former President of the Canadian Psychiatric Association Professor Harry Prosen, the esteemed ecologist Professor Stuart Hurlbert, Australia’s Templeton Prize-winning biologist Professor Charles Birch, the Former President of the Primate Society of Great Britain Dr David Chivers, Nobel Prize winning physicist Stephen Hawking, as well as other distinguished thinkers such as Sir Laurens van der Post—

The accolades just keep coming and don't stop. In the interview's PDF there are two pages of quotes from a variety of big names who have been blown away by Griffiths work. Here's a sample: 

‘In all of written history there are only 2 or 3 people who’ve been able to think on this scale about the human condition.’ Dr Anthony Barnett, Prof. of Zoology

‘FREEDOM is the book that saves the world…cometh the hour, cometh the man.’ Prof. Harry Prosen, Pres. Canadian Psychiatric Assn.

‘I am stunned and honored to have lived to see the coming of “Darwin II”’, Prof. Stuart Hurlbert, esteemed ecologist

‘Living without this understanding is like living back in the stone age, that’s how massive the change it brings is!’ Prof. Karen Riley, clinical pharmacist

‘Frankly, I am blown away by the ground-breaking significance of this work.’ Dr Patricia Glazebrook, Prof. of Philosophy

‘I’ve no doubt a fascinating television series could be made based upon this.’ Sir David Attenborough

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So, I thought, I've just got to look into this phenomenon especially as it is making such comprehensive claims. Over the course of several posts, I'll be looking at the interview in more detail. bearing in mind the following copyright notice....

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I don't get the feeling that the WTM are afraid of an open accountable discussion of their ideas and they don't come over as a sect with something to hide. In contrast I have had contact with some religious sects that are so controlling of their content that they are inclined to threaten authors critical of their content with slapp suits. But, I'm not going to read all the legal small print that hedges WTM content: I've got better things to do; like for example probing the meaning of life, the universe and everything.  If the WTM have got a legal quibble with my analyses the onus is on them to come and find me and tell me why. For a long time, I've quoted the North American Intelligent Design movement's content and never had any trouble from them even though some of those may well be aggressive right-wing AR15 wielding Trumpites (& Putinites?). One of my big advantages is that my low profile keeps me from being noticed or being ranked as notable. 

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Well, I've listened to the interview and wasn't entirely blown away by it. In fact, I found Griffith's ideas to be not entirely coherent on the subjects of the nature of consciousness, intelligence, survivability, the freedom zero-sum game and above all it didn't take seriously enough humanity's epistemic challenges. And that's without mentioning that bugbear of all humanity, Sin, the concept which is bound up with freedom and status and which ominously has an "I" in the middle. 

I must confess I'm just a little bit cynical & suspicious of the revolutionary hype which comes left, right and center from ideologues who are all too human in their flaws. As a Christain I'm also all too aware of the triumphalism that so often afflicts my own sub-culture, but even so, many Christians are aware that their beliefs come with many unsolved problems and enigmas and would be very embarrassed by hype as strong as we see coming from the WTM. Christianity hasn't swept the board of problems; rather it points, hopefully, in the right direction. 

Typically, the WTM brings to mind all those false dawns of revolutionary promise promoted by starry eyed enthusiasts. Sir Kenneth Clark's quote about some of the leaders of the French revolution is a sobering warning in this connection: Viz: ".....they suffered from that most terrible of all delusions; they believed themselves to be virtuous". (Civilization, The fallacies of Hope)

Let's hope that the WTM are self-critical enough to have reservations about their own philosophy.  This kind of movement, however, does tell us something important about humanity: Human beings are not like the beasts of the field who just accept their lot as a purposeless secular given; that is, that the cosmos is the way that it is, and you either like it or lump it and to hell with a probing curiosity as to meaning of it all. The WTM phenomenon tells us that when something purports to be of depth, seriousness and meaning, people, even secular people, don't need much encouragement to drink it in. It shows that underneath it all people are yearning for that "something" which addresses their deep existential yearnings for meaning & purpose. This may well be evidence of the "God shaped hole" which I think C S Lewis spoke of. 

But all in all, this kind of thing is just up my street: It impacts so many of the subjects I've explored: Viz: Evolution, Intelligent design, Artificial intelligence, Epistemology, Cosmology, Computation, Randomness, Complex adaptive systems, Systems theory, Theology, Creation & Fall, Social status studies, Marx vs Smith and above all the nature of Sin & salvation. I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy this.........